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Knives that have an 'XX' in the serial number or a 'CS' are reproduction and commemorative knives. They are true Gerber products but the values should be adjusted accordingly as they were not made in the same years as knives without the CS's or XX's in the serial numbers. There is an 'S' in the serial numbers of the stainless models. NOTE: There are also 1000 Presentation sets, with a special 4-digit numerical serial number (e.g. 0968), produced as a special tribute to R.W. Loveless who collaborated with Gerber in designing the Guardian knife.
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I am developing the definitive history of the Gerber BMF, and original LMF, knives for use by collectors and others.I have been working directly with Gerber, but unfortunately their historical information can best (and most diplomatically) be described as 'spotty'. So, I am now developing a knife-by-knife database. If any of you have one or more Gerber BMF knives, and/or original Gerber LMF, knives, please help me out.What I sorely need are (a) the serial number on the blade, (b) photos of the blade -there are four variations, (c) photos of the logo on the sheath - there are three variations, (d) photos of the back of the sheath at the top - there are three variations, and (e) for the BMF only, photos of the included compass - there are two.Thanks!- NighteyesSadly, Daniel has passed on. Please feel free to comment in the thread for the benefit of others though. I'm not ignoring you, I just have never owned such a knife.At one point I strongly considered getting one, but I also was strongly poor so made do with the knives My Dad had given me / or a few I beat / ground out of found metal.Then I discovered some of the writings of the older guys like kephart and nessmuk and my thinking on knives changed and I started carrying a axe, and smaller knives.Not I am still a fan of small fixed blade knives (providing 4 - 6 inch blades are small to you).I have again developed a love for larger knives, typically 8 - 15 inch blades. I find ones like the condor kumunga and bowie styles, and stuff like the Becker BK9 to fit the bill for these blades.I guess things go in circles for me.The BMF seems to be a nearly indestructable blade from all I have heard, whether or not one prefers its style.I wish I could help and should I run up on anyone with one I will attempt to gather your info and pass it on.Good huntingThad.
It is difficult to believe that a company would serialize a blade and then not keep up with the changes they made in that series. That sort of confirms my belief that these companies do everything they do as marketing hype.Yep, me too. However, one must remember that Gerber was purchased by Fiskars many years back. In my dealings with them on this project, I begin to think that much 'corporate memory' was lost during the transition.
For example, the only Gerber BMF stock photo I have ever seen shows three saw-backed versions - none of which ever actually made it into production!Of course, that's only my two-hundredths of a dollar. Gotcha, so this is a quest?What should I be looking for at knife and gun shows?I'm trying to develop a definitive history of them, for use by collectors and such. No one has done so, and I think its a worthwhile project. Gerber has practically no information on them, and misinformation abounds.
I'm trying to develop my own database of BMFs so that I can begin to get some idea of what serial numbers were produced in what year. There are several variables that will help.I know one fellow who did this for the Gerber Mark II and another who did it with the Buck 184 'Buckmaster.'
None of us is likely to get a dime for our efforts, but that wasn't/isn't the point. Like many projects, the journey is the reward.Ahhh, yes. The Quest.The journey so far as been most interesting. I 'found' one Gerber BMF that probably should not exist outside of the Gerber factory, because it was most likely a prototype that never went into production. But there it was on eBay, and it even had a serial number.
A true one-of-a-kind.UPDATE: I just 'found' another one on Photobucket, and its serial number is very close to the previous one. It doesn't have a sheath, so some other identifying marks aren't available.Gerber records make no mention of a 'fifth model', and since it has characteristics similar to a 'First-Pattern' blade, my present speculation is that they did not distinguish this modification from the original. (Sorta like Ontario has done with their Mark 3 Mod 0 knives.)H-m-m-m-m-m-m. AH the ol memories. I had both the LMF and the BMF back in the late 80's didn't care for either of them enought to keep em.
Neither had a saw back blade.And I LOVED the LMF (still have it), while being rather 'ho-hum' about the BMF (got rid of it). Like you, neither knife had the sawback blade.Now, with that said, these knives are still worth documenting. Anyone who has an example of either is strongly invited to add your knife to my database. It currently contains better than 250 BMFs, by the way. (The original Gerber LMFs have proven to be somewhat more difficult to document.)Regards,- Nighteyes.
Production Table IntroductionDate or production tables relate Gerber Mark II serial numbers to the years they were manufactured. Nine major and several minor tables/lists exist. However there are some discrepancies between them. Remember, that in the early years, Gerber did not keep careful records. It was nearly 14 years later in 1981 that a table was compiled by Mr. Doug Hutchens, Survival Knife Historian at Gerber.
I have attempted to use information from the lists to resolve some of the discrepancies, correct a few errors and insert more detail into the table. However there are several serial range differences that I could not resolve.
The Tables/Lists Used to Formulate My Date Table: